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Post by showmebob on Jul 16, 2005 10:42:28 GMT -5
Ok, I admit to being a idiot about baitcasters! I have 2 of them and if I cast them using a gentle sidearm motion I do fine. If I cast overhand or load the rod tip while casting sidearm (the way a rod is supposed to work) they will backlash as soon as I release the spool. I am getting spool overrun in the first part of the cast. I have tried both adjustments for a long time with no good results. Any suggestions? Or is my equipment just junk? Bob
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Post by winlyn on Jul 16, 2005 16:04:02 GMT -5
Bob, I use three baitcasting reel, all Shimano. The best is a Curado SF. Once you use this reel, it is hard to use anything else. The second is a house brand Bass Pro made by Shimano. The third is an older Shimano that seldom get in the boat anymore.
First, how are you setting up the reel? I set the centrifugal breaks completely extended. I adjust the spool tension so that the bait will slowly drop with the rod held horizontally. These two setting work well for me.
I don't know that it matters, but, I use shorter than normal medium rods (6')and 17 lb test mono. Short rods work well on the river and the high test lines help set the hook and get out of the structure when they get into it.
I have never analyzed my cast. I do hold slight thumb pressure on the spool when I cast. but only really need to at the last second of the cast. Casting into the wind requires adjustments as does some sidearm casting.
I have heard, but do not understand why, that the wider the spool on the reel, the less it will backlash. I don't know if this is true, but it holds true on my reels. The Curado has the widest spool and backlashes the least.
I am not sure I have touched on your problem, Bob. Let me research on the net and see if I can some up with something that covers the subject better. I will post the link here.
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Post by winlyn on Jul 16, 2005 19:02:10 GMT -5
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Post by Ray on Jul 18, 2005 10:48:03 GMT -5
well bob, I have a simple answer to your question, that will almost always work.
I have used baitcasters a lot, I have also found that they can backlash easilly, I have a few fishing videos that use baitcasters and I watch them in slow motion casting it so I can see how it works.
But here is the answer to your problem:
1. your reel might not be oiled enough for a smooth, clean, cast, try oiling it a bit and see how that helps you.
2. When you cast, as winlyn said, put your thumb on the spool and apply just a slight bit of pressure, not too much so it won't cast, but enought so the spoon won't spin faster than the line going out, that is the #1 reason for backlash in these kinds of reels.
3. use a 7-8 foot rod, this will allow you to cast direct and accurately with an easy control on the bait or lure, and you will be able to control the fish very well when you hook into it. I would suggest a Medium to Medium heavy rod, you might even be able to use a medium light, but that might be a little to light foor a baitcasting.
4. Use 10-17 pound line, I would suggest getting a braided line with a 10-17 pound diameter, but a higher strength. You also need a good line that won't chip easilly, I would suggest spider wire or stren. Never get any kind of line that says it's invisible underwater to fish, but easy for you to see above water, these lines are missing an important part in them so that they chip and break easilly.
5. if none of these work, look at the places winlyn gave you, if those don't work, there is something either wrong with your equipment or you just can't use baitcasters.
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Post by showmebob on Jul 30, 2005 13:09:22 GMT -5
Just wanted to say thank you for the tips and advise. I have checked out the web links also. I will not be able to try out any of these tips until October. My reels don't have centrifical systems on them. One thing that I may try next time is to tighten up the cast control a little and back of the magnetic a little more. How is the fall (late october) fishing on Pomme De Terre?
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Post by winlyn on Jul 30, 2005 15:40:48 GMT -5
Late October is the second best time of the year. Some would say the best. I still like the months of April and May. You should see the bass back on the banks and while the crappie will not be in the really shallow water, they will be in four to six feet of water on stumps.
And it will not be hot...........
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Post by showmebob on Jul 30, 2005 21:47:51 GMT -5
Thanks again Winston for the advise. Even if the fishing isn't so good like last oct when we were there, the leaves are worth the trip! Last oct I only got to fish 2 times and didnt' have good luck at all. I think a weather front had just come thru. This year I will check this site for latest reports before making the trip. Hot in Colorado, Bob
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Post by Ray on Jul 30, 2005 22:51:30 GMT -5
well I'm suppose to be going to pomme de terre on Tuesday and comming back on thursday if the weather is good.
I am going to try fly fishing agian, I had a great succuss last time with it, I went fly fishing today in my pond and for some reason the smaller catfish were hitting my flies on the surface, it was so strange but it was so much fun, my biggest cat today was 1 pound, not big, but fun to catch.
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Post by showmebob on Aug 4, 2005 10:43:45 GMT -5
Many years ago I would flyfish in the evenings along the bluffs by the hwy 64 bridge. I used popping bugs (home made) for lures and had great luck. It was a great way to unwind after working my 12 hour shift at the State Park Marina. Bob
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Post by Ray on Aug 4, 2005 20:03:04 GMT -5
well I wasn't able to go fly fishing, there was too much wind to be able to keep my line in a good formation so I can get a good cast.
But I had a really good time catching some big largemouth bass, I'll tell more about it in a different section.
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